clarissa (55_ka) wrote,

I feel sick to my stomach. It has nothing to do with the polygamist compound discovered in Texas. It has nothing to do with the fact that these people feel it's not only alright - but NECESSARY to expand their families to the double and even triple digits. It has nothing to do with the idea that a young teenage girl should be expected to have children by a man old enough to be her grandfather in their community. No, to me all of these things are completely wrong. I don't even have to blink to know this in my heart.

It's not the fact that women are born into this community and brainwashed into believing this is the correct way of life based on a religion. I'm not sick to the fact that young boys are shunned because they are viewed as competition to the older males. I'm not sick because these people live in homes with 40, 50, 100 other family members, and their fathers can't even remember which child is which or who's mother they were born by because he has so many. I'm not sick about the ignorance of these groups by Utah and Arizona.

What's making me feel awful - literally awful - is going to research about the raid on this particular group in Texas; and seeing the hundreds of comments made in defense of this group. It makes me absolutely sick.

It opens my awareness to the ignorance of people who live in our amazing nation with the most developed legal system in the world; judging the acts of Texas state officials for what they have done. Inciting they should have left them me, how is there even an argument? These people are living in the United States of America. Polygamy is illegal. Statutory rape is illegal. Physical abuse is illegal. How do you defend these people's right to flourish and grow in our country?

It simply makes me remember how much of our country is uneducated and biased; and how they still have a say in how we develop as a nation. To study a simple news article and see the responses in their defense; it simply makes me sick.

Sorry, but i needed to rant about this. I only hope these members of our nation are opressed eventuallym and will see the light of our world and what it could become. We have a grand future ahead of us, yet they spend their time defending idiots.

examples of these posts are

posts made on abc news article -

-burtcummins, let me be the first to congratulate you, so do you think that that the monsters of the state of Texas will appologize for their devious actions?It would appear that we have forgotten the abuse of government power thatculminated in the fiery deaths of many innocent children at Waco. Thus, are wedoomed to repeat a similar government intrusion under the guise of a heroic"rescue" by the jack-booted authorities in Texas. That group of Mormons -like the davidians at Waco - should have had the right to exercise their freedom ofreligion and life style as they saw fit. I would rather tolerate that sect of Christianspracticing polygamy in this country, rather than tolerate Muslims practicing andteaching jihad against this country. But government protects the latter underfreedom of religion...while denying such protection to the former. Even under this intolerance, I doubt they have a leader preaching,"G...Damn America."While some tenets of their faith might include the practice of polygamy, they poseno danger or threat, whatever, to any citizen outside that cloistered sect. It certainly does not justify one of the most repugnant abuses of authority and constitutional rights that has occurred in recent history except for the massacre of the davidians at Mount Carmel outside Waco. In such cases of religious practice why can't the government extend its, "don't ask, don't tell" policy. Or, perhaps, we can grant such communities a "sanctuary" status - as some cities have provided to illegal aliens (many of whom come here to commit murder and mayhem...not to mention soaking up taxpayer money to support them). Also, if it was homosexuality that was being practiced by that sect, then the state would probably not only permit such deviations but would force children in schools to read books entitled, "Why Johnnie has two fathers".The state acted against the davidians under a pretext of enforcing a violation ofsome firearms regulation...even though the members involved held gun dealership licenses. The state of Texas alleges they were moved to act against that Mormon sect because of some unsubstantiated complaint by a minor female who, mysteriously, can't be located? The judge who authorized that massive violation of constitutional rights against those Mormons should be remembered in history as having graduated with top honors from the Judge Roy Bean School of law. Where is due process of law in all of this? Perhaps the judge is a Baptist who was moved to assist that First Baptist Church to haul away those Mormons to be converted to their tight-xxx interpretation of the bible.But, seriously, how can the state deny the constitutional rights of an entire group of people; invade their private property; and round them up like a bunch of cattle being moved into holding pens? Has West Texas suspended the concept of habeas corpus in this country? All this on the basis of an "alleged" UNSWORN complaint? And, even if there was a valid complaint against a particular man, how can this be the basis for an overly broad search warrant to seize all the records (electronic and otherwise) within an entire community. In reality, it is a fishing expedition to find any sort of evidence that might support an offense to justify its precipitous action. Talk about fruit from the poisonous tree. Actually, the real motivation for such abuses of government - both at Waco and atthat Mormon compound - is simply this: Government just can't accept the idea that there are groups of people who simply wish to be left alone... to live their lives outside the conformities which most of us are forced into by political correctness, and the hypocrisy of what is perceived to be the correct way to conduct out lives. The action of this state government - against that Mormon sect - disrupting the lives of those individuals from a stable and caring family setting is both ludicrous and ill-advised. The trauma that will be suffered by those children, in being torn from their families, will endure long after the state of Texas has satisfied its sanctimonious reasoning for pursuing such fascist tactics.The fact is this country has become obsessed with age differentials between mature men and underage teens. But, there are few families (at least in the South), who trace their ancestry that cannot find a grandmother, great-grandmother, or great-great grandmother who did not marry their grandfather as an underage teen...who went on to produce large and happy families(for the most part). Loretta Lynn married her older husband when she was 13 years of age. Jerry Lee Lewis married his 13 year old cousin. Today, we would, undoubtedly, attempt to charge those males with rape and/or sexual abuse.Babies are born out of wedlock. A lot of them to teens 15 years of age or younger. But, according to the state of Texas, there is now a law that prohibits marriage at 16 years or younger - even if the parents give permission for such marriages. So, the result of that law guarantees babies born out of wedlock, because teen girls are having sex - whether married or not. The difference is that now the taxpayers will have to provide welfare support for those babies...with no obligation from a husband. The teens in that Mormon sect appear clean, happy, healthy and protected...and have the support of a husband (even if he is husband and father to others).Now, the state of Texas will be taking over those children. And, that ridiculousChild Protective Services (CPS) will be responsible for placing them into fosterhomes. I have never met a person who grew up in a foster home that was welladjusted and amounted to anything in life. There will usually be 2 or more fosterchildren in those homes, and the main incentive of the foster parents is to live onthe income provided by the state. Most treat their wards like unloved servants.Also, we are now well aware of how Texas takes care of minors. A good examplecomes from all the recent horror stories concerning the Texas Youth Authority.The kids locked up in those facilities are beaten and raped for real - by both theinmates and the guards. So, notwithstanding the demonization process thatis underway to validate the state's action, the conditions which these orphanedchildren will now have to endure, as wards of the state, is almost guaranteed tocause those children to have a much more unhappy childhood.Shame on you State of Texas. Pray for forgiveness, kangaroo court judge.

-I think everyone involved in this decision to raid this compound should be locked in prison for the rest of their lives with no elegibilty for parole. This has to be one of the darkest hours in the history of the USA. My heart goes out to the poor mothers of the children who were separated from them. Just because certain people don't believe the same way I do it does not give the state the right to take over their lives.

-You are next ! Yes all you white bread, pious people. The 'cops' will be busting into your home some day because they 'heard' you are evil, or 'someone' told them you ate your dog.What is at the root of this is MONEY. Yes money. These 416 children were being HOME SCHOOLED. Can we say HOME SCHOOLED? That means NO MONEY went to the Texas coffers. It also means that MY Constitutional Rights were just trampled by vicious, mean people who despite their protestations otherwise and not charitable or even Christians.They will next target who ? The AMISH? What do we REALLY know about these people? Who will be next? The Mennonites? Wow then there are the various Native American (Indian ) Tribes to be assaulted. Then the fabric of America, the Constitution, The Bill of Rights and all the heroic efforts of our Armed Forces will be for naught.This government has murdered its own citizens in the name of what? Law? What law says that the government can murder to enforce the laws? None. Now if armed resistance with weapons is encountered yes retaliation is appropriate.But come on ! Armored vehicles? Machine gun nests? Assault rifles. Wow these people probably never struck a fly.Now hear this I am NOT a Mormon, not a polygamist, not associated with any 'organized' religion BUT I am and American and when the government tramples the civil rights of ANY AMERICAN they trample on my rights as well ! They also trample yours. Think about it.. This not "FOR THE CHILDREN", this about power, money and control about destruction of our country little by little. Call you Congressional delegation express your dismay.

...........Are you kidding me people? Some of the analogies they made; next is the Amish and Native Americans. Well if they are participating in the same practices as these Mormons; then hell yes let their huge cults be investigated i say. The End
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